The Irreverent Cineastes Podcast

Two sarcastic and mildly embittered film scholars analyze, appreciate, and excoriate important works of pop culture.

Batman v. Superman: Dawn of “Justice” - The Irreverent Cineastes Podcast - Year Two

December 15th, 2017

Jon and Andrew started off Year Two of the Irreverent Cineastes Podcast with a...well, wasn’t a bang, more like a thud, or a bomb, was Batman v. Superman, everybody.  Without a doubt, this was the Movie of the Year for 2016, and we all know how much 2016 sucked.  Make no bones about it: we hated this movie, and if you’re one of those people who inexplicably loved it, this podcast won’t be for you.  For everyone else - first off, welcome to the right side of cinematic history - and second, feel vindicated as we get deep into why this film was as profoundly flawed as it was, unpacking its staggering, seemingly never-ending cascade of failures that saw it place two iconic characters against one another in needless conflict and waste one of the most potentially amazing pop culture team-ups of all time.  To say nothing of the first appearance of Wonder Woman.  Ugh. (Note: We say a lot of things about Zach Snyder, his world view, and his mental health that may seem in poor taste in retrospect given his recent family tragedy - we stand by our statements but nonetheless send our condolences to he and his loved ones). Explicit language.  Recorded March 2016.

Content Advisory: The cinema of “Stuff Just Happens,” Autism spectrum, Zach Snyder (no, we’re don’t discuss those two things together, we’re not dicks...unlike the two main characters in this movie), 80 ways of saying this movie sucks, body shaming, Gal Gadot (mispronounced, apparently), the Ultra-Humanite, working the traps in the face of oblivion, and Cave Trolls.  Oh...and Batman and Superman...if you want to call them that..

Captain America: Civil War & Daredevil: Season 2 AKA The Vs. Podcast - The Irreverent Cineastes - Year Two

December 15th, 2017

That’s right, “vs.” with an “s”  - because it’s a BATTLE~! not a custody hearing.  So after suffering through months of hearing from apologists for “Dawn of Fuck This,” Jon and Andrew decided to place their discussion of the fairly amazing Captain America: Civil War and the partially amazing but nonetheless frustratingly inconsistent second season of Daredevil in direct conflict with BvS - discussing why Marvel’s take on inter-superhero conflict went so well while DC/Warners will go down as cinema’s equivalent of electing Donald Trump to the Presidency.   We’re pretty proud of this one, actually, because instead of just leaving this as a paean to one thing and a pummeling for the other, we get into the resonance of each story and how they would appeal to their audience and what messages they send about reception, idealism, and inclusion.  Kudos to Andrew for editing down some of my anti-Snyder ranting.  Explicit language. Recorded June 2016.

Content Advisory: Anti-Snyder ranting, Pro-Punisher ranting (character - not methodology), “No, you move,” Zemo, Zemo’s Evil Plan, Crazy Exes, Marvel vs DC (and how that’s really not a thing), idealism, despair, the unwitting racism of Batman, Grim-dark and its discontents, entry-points, and Bernie Sanders.

Ghostbusters (2016) - The Irreverent Cineastes Podcast - Year Two

December 15th, 2017

The Irreverent Cineastes suck in their proverbial guts this episode and welcome our old friend, colleague and feminist scholar (and ardent feminist) Brooke Edge, PhD to discuss Feminism!  And also the new Ghostbusters, which I think we all agreed was far more controversial and abused than it deserved to be, but sadly nowhere near as good as it needed to be to crush that enmity.  A fun discussion, as we talk about the traps of remakes and reboots, what expectations should and shouldn’t exist for them, the importance of various forms of representation, what and when comedy works (and where and when it doesn’t), the importance of inspiring young girls, casual racism, and sadly, yes, the inevitable wave of trolling that this movie and its creators had to bear and its preponderance in our culture.  We also share our first movie experiences...can you guess which movies had Jon hiding under his seat and Andrew screaming like a viking? Tune in to find out! Explicit language. Recorded July 2016. 

Content Advisory: Feminism (yay!), misogyny (boo!), Ghostbusters, Kate McKinnon (but nowhere near as much as you’d think), Leslie Jones, queef jokes, queer identity, special effects, internet trolls, gamergate (small “g”), Beastmaster, remakes, reboots, rehashes, comedy, improv, Paul Feig, and the patriarchy (damn right it’s at the end of the list)

Star Trek Beyond - The Irreverent Cineastes Podcast - Year Two

December 15th, 2017

 So this was the first half of what was intended to be an extra-long/extra-special edition of the Irreverent Cineastes Podcast covering Star Trey Beyond and Rogue One, but we instead decided to make it into two regular-long and regular-special episodes (which is still plenty special...and plenty long).  Having the recording device run out of storage space during the second half also didn’t help.  ANYWAY, this first half allowed us to revisit a series whose previous, terrible installment actually kind of spawned this podcast in the first place.  Fortunately for us, however, the Star Trek guys were able to rewrite the creative woes of the franchise and right the proverbial ship of the series (despite destroying the Enterprise AGAIN) with a fun, exciting, poignant installment that tried to ground itself in story and character instead of blindly grasping onto every reference possible - while also embracing diversity and raging against the evils of colonialism. A great discussion here - though apologies for forgetting both the name of Sofia Boutella’s character and the name of Sofia Boutella.  What’s that character’s name, you ask? Well, it’ look! It’s time for the “Explicit Language” warning! Explicit Language. Recorded April 2017.

Content Advisory: Star Trek (obviously), the original series, Is it...Jayna? (nope), Spock, Colonialism, the Federation and hegemony, Jalla? (also no), Bones and the awesomeness of Karl Urban, Justin Lin, DIVERSITY!, Jalia? (getting colder there buddy), Sulu’s sexuality, Takei’s criticism, and...I give up, can we just call her the white girl? (oh yeah, because THAT wouldn’t be problematic)

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story AKA Star Wars: Rogue One AKA Rogue Wars: A Star of One - The Irreverent Cineastes Podcast - Year Two

December 15th, 2017

 So here’s the second half of the previous podcast, spliced together from two parts because of recording space and such.  Still, a really good discussion of a surprisingly terrific entry in the tired, tired, and did I mention TIRED Star Wars franchise.  While we hit on many of our thoughts of the film itself, its ending, narrative construction, and the morality of using CGI to recreate Peter Cushing’s performance as Grand Moff Tarkin, our main discussion falls on the teleological significance of the themes of “Rebellion,” Classism, morality, progress, and self-sacrifice in the aftermath of both the Trump election and the Democratic primary conflict between Hilary Clinton and Bernie Sanders and their respective supporters. Seriously, it’s pretty damn eerie how precise a reflection of reality this movie and its themes actually are.  Rest in Peace, Generalissimo Leia. Explicit Language.  Recorded April 2017

Content Advisory: TRUMP (seriously, hope you’re over that, because he gets name-dropped a lot here), Hilary Clinton, Bernie Sanders, Gareth Edwards and Gareth Evans (Pop Quiz - do you remember which one of those two directed this movie? If the answer is “yes” you know more than one of us), the failures of the liberal elite, self-satisfaction, “bubbles,” the Democratic Party, sacrifice, rebellion, progress, generationalism, Socialism, age-ism, Peter Cushing, Whitstable and Peter Cushing’s bicycle.

Suicide Squad - The Irreverent Cineaste Podcast - Year Two

December 15th, 2017

So the good news here is that Jon and Andrew made it through this without either killing themselves or each other.  The bad news here is that the topic of discussion is DC’s other massive dumpster fire of 2016, Suicide Squad.  Despite that fact, we’re kind of in the zone here, discussing not only why this was such a massive, massive failure, but also discussing that, unlike its preceding dumpster fire whose worthless initials won’t be repeated here, this actually could have worked with the right conceptualization and behind the cameras talent - neither of which this had.  Good cast, though. They do terrible work, but good cast.  Explicit Language. Recorded May 2017.

Content Advisory: David Ayer, Harley Quinn, The Joker, the sexual politics of Harley Quinn and the Joker, Will Smith, Smithifying, the awfulness of Jared Leto, the limitations of method acting, the importance of understanding your genre, caper movies (and how this should have been one), moral contstructs (and how this movie didn’t have any) and Batman: Assault on Arkham (which is SO MUCH BETTER than this movie it’s not even funny...which still makes it funnier than this movie)